<description>&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pre-show: 

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Happy independence day, John!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://shorewalkers.org/great-saunter/"&gt;The Great Saunter&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://pedometer.app/"&gt;Pedometer++&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://callsheetapp.com/movie/1596335"&gt;The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🗣️ New &lt;a href="https://atp.fm/join"&gt;ATP Member&lt;/a&gt; Special: &lt;a href="https://atp.fm/atp-tier-list-home-screen-icons"&gt;ATP Tier List: Home Screen Icons&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://readdle.com/about"&gt;More about the flag&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Follow-up:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast transcripts

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://missedapexpodcast.com/"&gt;Missed Apex&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MacBook Neo

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://xcancel.com/tim_cook/status/2034979891926769864"&gt;Tim Cook on the MacBook Neo launch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;New Ice Book? (via Adrian Bengtson)

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBook#iBook_G3_Dual_USB_(%22Snow%22,_2001-2003)"&gt;iBook &amp;#8220;Snow&amp;#8221;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvYt1GgcsUI"&gt;Teardown by Framework founder Nirav Patel&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://frame.work/"&gt;Framework&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MacBook Neo vs. Chromebooks

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&amp;#8220;NFW&amp;#8221;, says Henry&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&amp;#8220;This could be a breath of fresh air&amp;#8221;, says Ari&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&amp;#8220;Medium&amp;#8221; Core and M5 Pro/Max information from Apple

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://9to5mac.com/2026/03/20/apple-explains-why-m5-chips-have-three-different-core-types-in-new-interview/"&gt;Chance Miller at 9to5 Mac&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.heise.de/hintergrund/Apple-im-Interview-Warum-die-neuen-M5-Kerne-mehr-als-nur-Marketing-sind-11219792.html"&gt;Original article&lt;/a&gt; 🇩🇪&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express#History_and_revisions"&gt;PCI Express&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ubiquiti

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;What about site-to-site VPN for Marco?

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://store.ui.com/us/en/products/utr"&gt;UniFi Travel Router&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&amp;#8220;Not so fast, my friend&amp;#8221; re: Wi-Fi 7&amp;#160;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-Link_Operation"&gt;MLO&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAfwFUW3wa4"&gt;YouTube announcement&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://blog.ui.com/article/introducing-airwire"&gt;Blog post&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://hntrbrk.com/ubiquiti/"&gt;Some shadiness from January&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🪦 &lt;a href="https://9to5mac.com/2026/03/26/apple-discontinues-the-mac-pro/"&gt;RIP, Mac Pro&lt;/a&gt; 🪦

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.relay.fm/tc/123"&gt;Thoroughly Considered #123: The Last Detail with John Siracusa&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA"&gt;CUDA&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ask ATP:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Are we running any iOS apps in macOS? (via Alex Kent)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How would we balance new shiny vs. familiarity? (via Michael Brescher Jr.)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Post-show: John and Marco bicker about islands

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mainland"&gt;Merriam-Webster&amp;#8217;s definition of &amp;#8220;mainland&amp;#8221;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://atp.fm/join"&gt;Members-only&lt;/a&gt; ATP Overtime: 🥚 Update

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;10 February: &lt;a href="https://www.macrumors.com/2026/02/10/openais-jony-ive-designed-device-delayed-to-2027/"&gt;Delayed to 2027&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;20 February: &lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/882077/openai-chatgpt-smart-speaker-camera-glasses-lamp"&gt;Smart speaker with a camera?&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theinformation.com/articles/inside-openai-team-developing-ai-devices"&gt;The Information&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sponsored by:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://factormeals.com/atp50off"&gt;Factor&lt;/a&gt;: Healthy Eating, Made Easy&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://claude.ai/atp"&gt;Claude&lt;/a&gt;: Ready to tackle bigger problems? Get started with Claude today.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

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</description>

Accidental Tech Podcast

Marco Arment, Casey Liss, John Siracusa

685: The Ability to Be Hotter

APR 1, 2026135 MIN
Accidental Tech Podcast

685: The Ability to Be Hotter

APR 1, 2026135 MIN

Description

<ul> <li>Pre-show: <ul> <li>Happy independence day, John!</li> <li><a href="https://shorewalkers.org/great-saunter/">The Great Saunter</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://pedometer.app/">Pedometer++</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://callsheetapp.com/movie/1596335">The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist</a></li> </ul></li> <li>🗣️ New <a href="https://atp.fm/join">ATP Member</a> Special: <a href="https://atp.fm/atp-tier-list-home-screen-icons">ATP Tier List: Home Screen Icons</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://readdle.com/about">More about the flag</a></li> </ul></li> <li>Follow-up: <ul> <li>Overcast transcripts <ul> <li><a href="https://missedapexpodcast.com/">Missed Apex</a></li> </ul></li> <li>MacBook Neo <ul> <li><a href="https://xcancel.com/tim_cook/status/2034979891926769864">Tim Cook on the MacBook Neo launch</a></li> <li>New Ice Book? (via Adrian Bengtson) <ul> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBook#iBook_G3_Dual_USB_(%22Snow%22,_2001-2003)">iBook &#8220;Snow&#8221;</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvYt1GgcsUI">Teardown by Framework founder Nirav Patel</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://frame.work/">Framework</a></li> </ul></li> <li>MacBook Neo vs. Chromebooks <ul> <li>&#8220;NFW&#8221;, says Henry</li> <li>&#8220;This could be a breath of fresh air&#8221;, says Ari</li> </ul></li> </ul></li> <li>&#8220;Medium&#8221; Core and M5 Pro/Max information from Apple <ul> <li><a href="https://9to5mac.com/2026/03/20/apple-explains-why-m5-chips-have-three-different-core-types-in-new-interview/">Chance Miller at 9to5 Mac</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.heise.de/hintergrund/Apple-im-Interview-Warum-die-neuen-M5-Kerne-mehr-als-nur-Marketing-sind-11219792.html">Original article</a> 🇩🇪</li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express#History_and_revisions">PCI Express</a></li> </ul></li> <li>Ubiquiti <ul> <li>What about site-to-site VPN for Marco? <ul> <li><a href="https://store.ui.com/us/en/products/utr">UniFi Travel Router</a></li> </ul></li> <li>&#8220;Not so fast, my friend&#8221; re: Wi-Fi 7&#160;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-Link_Operation">MLO</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAfwFUW3wa4">YouTube announcement</a></li> <li><a href="https://blog.ui.com/article/introducing-airwire">Blog post</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://hntrbrk.com/ubiquiti/">Some shadiness from January</a></li> </ul></li> </ul></li> <li>🪦 <a href="https://9to5mac.com/2026/03/26/apple-discontinues-the-mac-pro/">RIP, Mac Pro</a> 🪦 <ul> <li><a href="https://www.relay.fm/tc/123">Thoroughly Considered #123: The Last Detail with John Siracusa</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA">CUDA</a></li> </ul></li> <li>Ask ATP: <ul> <li>Are we running any iOS apps in macOS? (via Alex Kent)</li> <li>How would we balance new shiny vs. familiarity? (via Michael Brescher Jr.)</li> </ul></li> <li>Post-show: John and Marco bicker about islands <ul> <li><a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mainland">Merriam-Webster&#8217;s definition of &#8220;mainland&#8221;</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://atp.fm/join">Members-only</a> ATP Overtime: 🥚 Update <ul> <li>10 February: <a href="https://www.macrumors.com/2026/02/10/openais-jony-ive-designed-device-delayed-to-2027/">Delayed to 2027</a></li> <li>20 February: <a href="https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/882077/openai-chatgpt-smart-speaker-camera-glasses-lamp">Smart speaker with a camera?</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.theinformation.com/articles/inside-openai-team-developing-ai-devices">The Information</a></li> </ul></li> </ul></li> </ul> <p>Sponsored by:</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.masterclass.com/atp">Masterclass</a>: Learn from the world’s best. Video lessons that inspire.</li> <li><a href="https://factormeals.com/atp50off">Factor</a>: Healthy Eating, Made Easy</li> <li><a href="https://claude.ai/atp">Claude</a>: Ready to tackle bigger problems? Get started with Claude today.</li> </ul> <p><a href="https://atp.fm/join">Become a member</a> for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!</p>