<description>&lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;Pre-show: Casey requests an app from Marco &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://roon.app/en/"&gt;Roon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nugs.net"&gt;Nugs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;🗣️ &lt;a href="https://atp.fm/store"&gt;ATP STORE&lt;/a&gt; IS LIVE! 🗣️&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;🗣️ New &lt;a href="https://atp.fm/join"&gt;ATP Member&lt;/a&gt; Special: &lt;a href="https://atp.fm/atp-dev-nuggets-of-wisdom"&gt;ATP Dev: Nuggets of Wisdom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;Follow-up: &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suunto"&gt;Suunto is… not young&lt;/a&gt; (via Henri Sivonen) &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://hachyderm.io/@fugu/116381257647038973"&gt;Garmin did beat Suunto to GPS watch though&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://alexharri.com/blog/ascii-rendering"&gt;The &lt;em&gt;other&lt;/em&gt; neat explainer John was thinking of&lt;/a&gt; (via &lt;a href="https://mastodon.cloud/@benlandsberg/116398189506822356"&gt;Ben Landsberg&lt;/a&gt;) &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;Previously: &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://ericportis.com/posts/2024/okay-color-spaces/"&gt;Eric Portis on Color Spaces&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://ciechanow.ski/"&gt;Bartosz Ciechanowski on… anything&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.macrumors.com/2026/04/07/macbook-neo-massive-dilemma/"&gt;Is Apple running out of A18 Pros&lt;/a&gt;‽ 😱&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;Apple IDs &amp;amp; passkeys (via &lt;a href="https://hachyderm.io/@vitor/116380475561760848"&gt;Vitor&lt;/a&gt;) &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/applehelp/comments/1lg5u30/why_the_passkeys_and_the_apple_store_present_my/"&gt;Others with this issue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Passkeys/comments/1eafjpx/comment/lex7cwh/"&gt;Apple said it&amp;#8217;d be fixed… two years ago&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theguardian.com/money/2025/nov/23/fire-alert-the-fake-amazon-tv-stick-that-opens-the-door-to-fraudsters"&gt;Stealing TV… may not be so wise. Shocker!&lt;/a&gt; (via Nye Hughes) &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;See also: &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/11/is-your-android-tv-streaming-box-part-of-a-botnet/"&gt;Krebs on Security&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/172/"&gt;Darknet Diaries&lt;/a&gt; (via &lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@xavdid/116369588403543504"&gt;David Brownman&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/899597/apple-maps-ads-launch-summer-2026"&gt;Ads are coming to Apple Maps&lt;/a&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/03/introducing-apple-business-a-new-all-in-one-platform-for-businesses-of-all-sizes/"&gt;Newsroom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;AI-generated code &amp;amp; copyright &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/887678/supreme-court-ai-art-copyright"&gt;AI-generated art can&amp;#8217;t be copyrighted&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://simonwillison.net/2026/Mar/5/chardet/"&gt;Can coding agents &amp;#8220;relicense&amp;#8221; through clean-room re-implementation?&lt;/a&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/chardet/chardet/issues/327"&gt;No right to relicense this project&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_selfie_copyright_dispute"&gt;Monkey selfie&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://fediverse.zachleat.com/@zachleat/116324670510597490"&gt;Claude, rewrite yourself&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;Ask ATP: &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;When Marco goes on a &lt;a href="https://shorewalkers.org/great-saunter/"&gt;saunter&lt;/a&gt; with two watches, are the measurements similar? (via &lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@JasonEccles/116398614846549682"&gt;Jason&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;Why did Marco bother with colocation? (via Stephen Gozza)&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;Post-show: Casey&amp;#8217;s silly &lt;a href="https://amzn.to/4mroYqM"&gt;new toy&lt;/a&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE26ke1tSCk"&gt;Alex&amp;#8217;s overview&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://cdn.atp.fm/images/20260415-glinet-linux.png"&gt;Screenshot of a Linux machine&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://cdn.atp.fm/images/20260415-glinet-macos.png"&gt;Screenshot of a Mac&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://atp.fm/join"&gt;Members-only&lt;/a&gt; ATP Overtime: John tries to reach acceptance &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpu-drivers/apple-approves-drivers-that-let-amd-and-nvidia-egpus-run-on-mac-software-designed-for-ai-though-and-not-built-for-gaming"&gt;Apple approves AMD &amp;amp; Nvidia eGPU drivers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@janwedek/116368200080081239"&gt;What if Apple adopted &amp;#8220;MPX&amp;#8221;-style modules?&lt;/a&gt; (via Jan Wedekind) &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.mk1manufacturing.com/Mac-Mini-Rack-Mounts/High-Density-Rack-Mount-for-Mac-Mini-p105.html"&gt;MK1 High Density Rack Mount&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;Bandwidth comparisons &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;Thunderbolt 5 &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;80 Gbit/s symmetric&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;120 Gbit/s unidirectional for displays&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;SSD (M5 Max MacBook pro, 4&amp;#160;TB) &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;109 Gbit/s (13.6&amp;#160;GB/s) read&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;142 Gbit/s (17.8&amp;#160;GB/s) write&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.crucial.com/support/articles-faq-ssd/pcie-speeds-limitations#:~:text=PCIe%20speeds%20by%20generation%20and%20lane%20count"&gt;PCIe speeds&lt;/a&gt; on PCIe 5.0 &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;1 lane: 32 Gbit/s (4&amp;#160;GB/s)&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;16 lanes: 512 Gbit/s (64&amp;#160;GB/s)&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;…as compared to the Mac Pro&amp;#8217;s 64 lanes across 4 slots (2,048 GBit/s) &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;17× Thunderbolt 5&amp;#8217;s maximum single-direction speed&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;Internal vs. external SSD &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;2025 Mac Studio: ~5.5&amp;#160;GB/s&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.owc.com/solutions/envoy-ultra"&gt;OWC Envoy Ultra&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDH_veJ6LEs&amp;amp;t=37"&gt;~5.1&amp;#160;GB/s&lt;/a&gt;; 8&amp;#160;TB for $2,250&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.owc.com/solutions/thunderblade"&gt;OWC Thunderblade&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMaP_M9uOFs&amp;amp;t=225s"&gt;~5.75&amp;#160;GB/s&lt;/a&gt;; 8&amp;#160;TB for $2,700&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://shop.polysoft.fr/en/"&gt;PolySoft third-party &lt;em&gt;internal&lt;/em&gt; SSDs&lt;/a&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/polysoftservices/studio-drive"&gt;Kickstarter&lt;/a&gt; (ended November 2024)&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p&gt;Sponsored by:&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://leesa.com"&gt;Leesa&lt;/a&gt;: A mattress for every body and budget.&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://zapier.com/atp"&gt;Zapier&lt;/a&gt;: Put AI to work across your company—for real.&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://quince.com/atp"&gt;Quince&lt;/a&gt;: Elevated essentials and staples that last&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://atp.fm/join"&gt;Become a member&lt;/a&gt; for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!&lt;/p&gt; </description>

Accidental Tech Podcast

Marco Arment, Casey Liss, John Siracusa

687: You Can Bend This Line

APR 16, 2026115 MIN
Accidental Tech Podcast

687: You Can Bend This Line

APR 16, 2026115 MIN

Description

<ul> <li>Pre-show: Casey requests an app from Marco <ul> <li><a href="https://roon.app/en/">Roon</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.nugs.net">Nugs</a></li> </ul></li> <li>🗣️ <a href="https://atp.fm/store">ATP STORE</a> IS LIVE! 🗣️</li> <li>🗣️ New <a href="https://atp.fm/join">ATP Member</a> Special: <a href="https://atp.fm/atp-dev-nuggets-of-wisdom">ATP Dev: Nuggets of Wisdom</a></li> <li>Follow-up: <ul> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suunto">Suunto is… not young</a> (via Henri Sivonen) <ul> <li><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@fugu/116381257647038973">Garmin did beat Suunto to GPS watch though</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://alexharri.com/blog/ascii-rendering">The <em>other</em> neat explainer John was thinking of</a> (via <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/@benlandsberg/116398189506822356">Ben Landsberg</a>) <ul> <li>Previously: <ul> <li><a href="https://ericportis.com/posts/2024/okay-color-spaces/">Eric Portis on Color Spaces</a></li> <li><a href="https://ciechanow.ski/">Bartosz Ciechanowski on… anything</a></li> </ul></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://www.macrumors.com/2026/04/07/macbook-neo-massive-dilemma/">Is Apple running out of A18 Pros</a>‽ 😱</li> <li>Apple IDs &amp; passkeys (via <a href="https://hachyderm.io/@vitor/116380475561760848">Vitor</a>) <ul> <li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/applehelp/comments/1lg5u30/why_the_passkeys_and_the_apple_store_present_my/">Others with this issue</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Passkeys/comments/1eafjpx/comment/lex7cwh/">Apple said it&#8217;d be fixed… two years ago</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/money/2025/nov/23/fire-alert-the-fake-amazon-tv-stick-that-opens-the-door-to-fraudsters">Stealing TV… may not be so wise. Shocker!</a> (via Nye Hughes) <ul> <li>See also: <ul> <li><a href="https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/11/is-your-android-tv-streaming-box-part-of-a-botnet/">Krebs on Security</a></li> <li><a href="https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/172/">Darknet Diaries</a> (via <a href="https://mastodon.social/@xavdid/116369588403543504">David Brownman</a>)</li> </ul></li> </ul></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/899597/apple-maps-ads-launch-summer-2026">Ads are coming to Apple Maps</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/03/introducing-apple-business-a-new-all-in-one-platform-for-businesses-of-all-sizes/">Newsroom</a></li> </ul></li> <li>AI-generated code &amp; copyright <ul> <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/policy/887678/supreme-court-ai-art-copyright">AI-generated art can&#8217;t be copyrighted</a></li> <li><a href="https://simonwillison.net/2026/Mar/5/chardet/">Can coding agents &#8220;relicense&#8221; through clean-room re-implementation?</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://github.com/chardet/chardet/issues/327">No right to relicense this project</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_selfie_copyright_dispute">Monkey selfie</a></li> <li><a href="https://fediverse.zachleat.com/@zachleat/116324670510597490">Claude, rewrite yourself</a></li> </ul></li> <li>Ask ATP: <ul> <li>When Marco goes on a <a href="https://shorewalkers.org/great-saunter/">saunter</a> with two watches, are the measurements similar? (via <a href="https://mastodon.social/@JasonEccles/116398614846549682">Jason</a>)</li> <li>Why did Marco bother with colocation? (via Stephen Gozza)</li> </ul></li> <li>Post-show: Casey&#8217;s silly <a href="https://amzn.to/4mroYqM">new toy</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE26ke1tSCk">Alex&#8217;s overview</a></li> <li><a href="https://cdn.atp.fm/images/20260415-glinet-linux.png">Screenshot of a Linux machine</a></li> <li><a href="https://cdn.atp.fm/images/20260415-glinet-macos.png">Screenshot of a Mac</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://atp.fm/join">Members-only</a> ATP Overtime: John tries to reach acceptance <ul> <li><a href="https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpu-drivers/apple-approves-drivers-that-let-amd-and-nvidia-egpus-run-on-mac-software-designed-for-ai-though-and-not-built-for-gaming">Apple approves AMD &amp; Nvidia eGPU drivers</a></li> <li><a href="https://mastodon.social/@janwedek/116368200080081239">What if Apple adopted &#8220;MPX&#8221;-style modules?</a> (via Jan Wedekind) <ul> <li><a href="https://www.mk1manufacturing.com/Mac-Mini-Rack-Mounts/High-Density-Rack-Mount-for-Mac-Mini-p105.html">MK1 High Density Rack Mount</a></li> </ul></li> <li>Bandwidth comparisons <ul> <li>Thunderbolt 5 <ul> <li>80 Gbit/s symmetric</li> <li>120 Gbit/s unidirectional for displays</li> </ul></li> <li>SSD (M5 Max MacBook pro, 4&#160;TB) <ul> <li>109 Gbit/s (13.6&#160;GB/s) read</li> <li>142 Gbit/s (17.8&#160;GB/s) write</li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://www.crucial.com/support/articles-faq-ssd/pcie-speeds-limitations#:~:text=PCIe%20speeds%20by%20generation%20and%20lane%20count">PCIe speeds</a> on PCIe 5.0 <ul> <li>1 lane: 32 Gbit/s (4&#160;GB/s)</li> <li>16 lanes: 512 Gbit/s (64&#160;GB/s)</li> <li>…as compared to the Mac Pro&#8217;s 64 lanes across 4 slots (2,048 GBit/s) <ul> <li>17× Thunderbolt 5&#8217;s maximum single-direction speed</li> </ul></li> </ul></li> </ul></li> <li>Internal vs. external SSD <ul> <li>2025 Mac Studio: ~5.5&#160;GB/s</li> <li><a href="https://www.owc.com/solutions/envoy-ultra">OWC Envoy Ultra</a>: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDH_veJ6LEs&amp;t=37">~5.1&#160;GB/s</a>; 8&#160;TB for $2,250</li> <li><a href="https://www.owc.com/solutions/thunderblade">OWC Thunderblade</a>: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMaP_M9uOFs&amp;t=225s">~5.75&#160;GB/s</a>; 8&#160;TB for $2,700</li> <li><a href="https://shop.polysoft.fr/en/">PolySoft third-party <em>internal</em> SSDs</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/polysoftservices/studio-drive">Kickstarter</a> (ended November 2024)</li> </ul></li> </ul></li> </ul></li> </ul> <p>Sponsored by:</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://leesa.com">Leesa</a>: A mattress for every body and budget.</li> <li><a href="https://zapier.com/atp">Zapier</a>: Put AI to work across your company—for real.</li> <li><a href="https://quince.com/atp">Quince</a>: Elevated essentials and staples that last</li> </ul> <p><a href="https://atp.fm/join">Become a member</a> for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!</p>