<p>Lew Ludwig + Todd Zakrajsek uncover themes from The Science of Learning Meets AI on episode 619 of the Teaching in Higher Ed podcast.<br /> <div id="" class="one-half first divwrap clearfix" /></p> <h2>Quotes from the episode</h2> <p><img decoding="async" class="alignnone wp-image-21245" src="https://teachinginhighered.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/TIHE619-3-300x200.png" alt="We could actually create an educational system. Not so that it deals with the problems we have with AI, but so that those problems are no longer relevant." width="556" height="371" srcset="https://images.coachingforleaders.com/cb:ztCJ~31fd5/w:300/h:200/q:mauto/f:best/ig:avif/https://teachinginhighered.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/TIHE619-3.png 300w, https://images.coachingforleaders.com/cb:ztCJ~31fd5/w:768/h:512/q:mauto/f:best/ig:avif/https://teachinginhighered.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/TIHE619-3.png 768w, https://images.coachingforleaders.com/cb:ztCJ~31fd5/w:600/h:400/q:mauto/f:best/ig:avif/https://teachinginhighered.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/TIHE619-3.png 600w, https://images.coachingforleaders.com/cb:ztCJ~31fd5/w:360/h:240/q:mauto/f:best/ig:avif/https://teachinginhighered.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/TIHE619-3.png 360w, https://images.coachingforleaders.com/cb:ztCJ~31fd5/w:930/h:620/q:mauto/f:best/ig:avif/https://teachinginhighered.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/TIHE619-3.png 930w, https://images.coachingforleaders.com/cb:ztCJ~31fd5/w:930/h:620/q:mauto/f:best/ig:avif/dpr:2/https://teachinginhighered.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/TIHE619-3.png 2x" sizes="(max-width: 556px) 100vw, 556px" /></p> <p>We could actually create an educational system. Not so that it deals with the problems we have with AI, but so that those problems are no longer relevant.<br /> -Todd Zakrajsek</p> <p>If you don&#8217;t have students attention, they can&#8217;t learn because if you don&#8217;t attend to something, you can&#8217;t learn it.<br /> -Todd Zakrajsek</p> <p>Keep in mind that you&#8217;re the expert. This is your assignment. You know what you&#8217;re doing, you know the content, so then you can judge what AI gives you, what works, and what still may need some work.<br /> -Lew Ludwig</p> <p>What this gets down to is backward design; we start with the learning goals. We should figure out how to assess them, and then decide if AI fits in that or not.<br /> -Lew Ludwig</p> <p></div><div id="" class="one-half divwrap clearfix" /></p> <h2>Resources</h2> <ul> <li style="list-style-type: none;"> <ul> <li style="list-style-type: none;"> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/mono/10.4324/9781003689102/science-learning-meets-ai-lewis-ludwig-todd-zakrajsek">The Science of Learning Meets AI: A Practical Faculty Guide to Purposeful Integration, Student Engagement, and Ethical Practice, by Lewis D. Ludwig &#38; Todd D. Zakrajsek</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.lillyconferences.com/">Lilly Conferences: Evidence-Based Teaching &#38; Learning</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.tilthighered.com/about/meet-the-team">Mary-Ann Winkelmes</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.tilthighered.com/">Transparency in Learning &#38; Teaching (TILT) Higher Education</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backward_design">Backward Design</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.oupress.com/9780806194967/the-opposite-of-cheating/">The Opposite of Cheating: Teaching for Integrity in the Age of AI, by Tricia Bertram Gallant and David A. Rettinger</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Caraway/page/C08B93A9-264D-456E-A02D-25064614CFCE">Caraway Cookware</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@harrybakerpoet/video/7363205479427886369">Joy Comes Back, by Donna Ashworth, read by Harry Baker</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.tripit.com/">TripIt</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/jeff-moss">The Other Side of the Door, by Jeff Moss</a></li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> <p></div></p>