Most people think performance is about more reps, more data, more tech, or more intensity. But according to human performance educator Rob Wilson, the truth is far more uncomfortable: most elite performers don’t actually understand their own bodies, identities, or inner signals—and it’s costing them years of longevity, clarity, and resilience.In this powerful conversation, Mark Divine and Rob Wilson break down the real keys to performance longevity, emotional resilience, identity beyond your job title, and why self-awareness is the most underrated skill in elite sport, tactical teams, and everyday life.From breathwork, interoception, and spinal health… to transitions out of high-status careers… to the hidden dangers of burnout and tech dependency… this episode explores the deep work behind staying healthy, powerful, and fully human in a high-performance world.If you’re an athlete, coach, operator, or leader who wants to sustain excellence without breaking your body, mind, or identity—this conversation will shift how you train, lead, and live.In this episode, you’ll learn:1. Why high performers must become “problem seekers,” not just problem solvers2. How to become the observer of your own training instead of a consumer of metrics3. Why tech overload is weakening self-awareness and decision-making4. How breathwork and spinal health unlock long-term resilience5. Why identity collapse affects elite operators and athletes after transition6. How emotional intelligence amplifies performance and protects mental health7. What it really takes to prevent burnout and injury in high-stress environments8. Why ancient mind-body practices still outperform the newest fitness techJoin The Unbeatable Tribe on SkoolA leadership community for high performers who want to grow with purpose, courage, and accountability.https://www.skool.com/unbeatable-mastery-tribe/aboutSubscribe to Mark’s Leadership & Mental Toughness NewsletterWeekly insights to help you build elite resilience, discipline, and clarity.https://markdivine.com/newsletterRob Links:Website: https://www.wilsonhealthandperformance.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecheckenginelight/?hl=enLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-wilson-929b6a152Simplifaster.com: https://simplifaster.com/articles/author/robwilson/Mark Links: Website: https://markdivine.comThe Unbeatable Tribe: https://www.skool.com/unbeatable-mastery-tribe/aboutDivine Inspiration Newsletter: https://markdivine.com/newsletterYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@markdivineofficial/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/markdivineofficialLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markdivine/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/markdivineofficial/Subscribe to https://www.youtube.com/@markdivineofficial for more inspiring conversations on leadership, growth, and impact.Rate and review the show to help us reach more listeners.Share your thoughts and takeaways in the comments!#MarkDivine #RobWilson #HumanPerformance #EliteTraining #PerformanceLongevity #MentalToughness #Breathwork #Interoception #IdentityShift #LeadershipDevelopment #SpecialOperations #PeakPerformance #MindBodyTraining #ResilienceBuilding #UnbeatableMindTimestamps00:00 Introduction and Current Focus00:26 Health Monitoring Technology Debate01:02 Welcome to the Mark Divine Show01:31 Rob Wilson's Background and Achievements02:52 Challenges of Transitioning from Military Life07:21 The Importance of Pre-Resilience Training13:04 The Role of Education in Strength and Conditioning21:48 Breath Control and Interoception34:02 Understanding Contextual Shifts in Health and Longevity34:39 Injury and Burnout in High-Performance Environments35:27 The Complex System of Human Stress Load36:48 Emotional and Mental Health in Elite Performers44:20 The Importance of Empathy and Emotional Regulation48:34 Meditation and Breath Work for Integrated Health55:18 Writing and Publishing Insights01:04:21 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.