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Outsmart Burnout: The Podcast for High-Achieving Women with Dr. Zarya Rubin
Dr. Zarya Rubin, MD - Physician & Burnout Expert
Why Burnout Is a Nervous System Problem, Not a Willpower Problem - with Jill Clark
SEP 16, 202642 MIN
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Description
Jill Clark is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in California and a Master ART (Accelerated Resolution Therapy) certified clinician. She specializes in neurotherapy, trauma resolution, and nervous system recovery, working with high-performing women, first responders, and professionals who have done everything right and are still stuck. She is the CEO and Founder of The Resiliency Co., holds a state contract with CAL FIRE treating active-duty firefighters, and recently released her second book, The RESTORE Roadmap: What to Do When Insight Isn't Enough.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
- Burnout rarely walks in the door labeled "burnout" — it shows up as brain fog, insomnia, memory issues, and reactivity that clients describe one symptom at a time.
- Talk therapy and CBT are effective for situational stress, but complex trauma lives in a loop the thinking brain can't fully resolve on its own.
- Neurofeedback maps and retrains brain activity directly through a reward system, helping shift the brain out of chronic fight-or-flight or shutdown states.
- ART uses bilateral stimulation (eye movement or tapping) to help the brain reconsolidate a traumatic memory — without requiring the client to retell the whole story.
- The brain doesn't distinguish between imagination and reality, which is exactly why nervous-system-focused techniques (and unresolved trauma loops) work the way they do.
- Jill's RESTORE framework: Regulate, Educate, Stabilize, Transform, Optimize, Reconnect, Embody.
- "Most people put a Band-Aid on a gaping wound and expect it to shift." Real change means going after what's underneath the symptoms, not just managing them.
TIMESTAMPS
01:37 What burnout actually looks like walking into Jill's office
04:49 Jill's origin story: 25 years in fitness, therapist in her 40s
09:28 What neurofeedback is and how it works
14:35 Accelerated Resolution Therapy (ART) explained
18:17 Inside Jill's work with CAL FIRE firefighters
22:43 Why over-intellectualizing works against nervous system healing
25:33 The RESTORE Roadmap and what each letter means
35:13 Rapid fire round
42:25 The first step if you feel stuck despite years of therapy
GUEST CONTACT
Website: resiliencyco.net
Book: "The RESTORE Roadmap: What to Do When Insight Isn't Enough" — on Amazon
Connect with Dr. Zarya Rubin, founder of The Afterglow Collective:
Website: www.outsmartburnout.com
IG: www.instagram.com/outsmartburnout
Get your FREE Burnout to Balance Toolkit: https://drzarya.myflodesk.com/burnouttoolkit
Book a FREE Consult with Dr. Zarya: https://calendly.com/drzarya/free-burnout-consult
Reach out with questions or to book Dr. Zarya for your next event: [email protected]

