EP023 黑白屏、Brick、小灵通：实验一周，我们成功戒手机了吗？Did We Kick Our Phone Habit in a Week?

【聊了什么 The What】 我们决定集体戒手机一周，借此机会来聊聊我们和手机之间越来越拧巴的关系。 安蕤自曝日均屏幕时间一度高达11–13小时，马修的手机使用时长会随身边有没有人而剧烈波动，一闻则发现自己在物理隔离时反而最轻松。到底怎么才能戒手机啊？？ 在亲自尝试之后，我们总结了戒手机的三大流派：物理隔离法、以毒攻毒法、一了百了法，体验了从Brick这类硬件到各类自律软件的种种工具，给出了真实反馈。 我们也回溯了手机是怎么一步步从IBM Simon、诺基亚、黑莓这样的生产力工具，演变成今天这块让人欲罢不能的everything产品的？iPhone的诞生、App Store、推送通知、无限滚动、点赞按钮、广告经济和推荐算法——这些拼图是怎么拼在一起，把手机变成了一台口袋里的老虎机的？同时，我们也聊了Kevin Roose和Catherine Price的戒手机实验、Luddite运动的历史，以及中美在"戒手机"这件事上因为微信/社交媒体渗透程度不同而产生的巨大差异。 We decided to spend a week cutting back on our phone use. Then we use the experience to unpack our increasingly complicated relationship with our phones. Anrui confesses that her daily screen time once hit 11-13 hours. Matthew’s phone use swings wildly depending on whether he’s alone or with other people. Yiwen discovers that she feels most at ease when her phone is physically out of reach. Seriously, how do you quit your phone?? After trying it ourselves, we identified three methods: keep your phone physically out of reach, fight tech with tech, or go cold turkey. We tested everything from hardware like Brick to apps designed to keep us in check and shared our honest verdicts. We also trace how phones evolved from productivity tools like the IBM Simon, Nokia, and BlackBerry into today’s irresistible “everything” devices. The iPhone, the App Store, push notifications, infinite scroll, the Like button, the advertising economy, and recommendation algorithms—how did these pieces come together to turn our phones into pocket-sized slot machines? Along the way, we discuss Kevin Roose’s and Catherine Price’s phone detox experiments, the history of the Luddite movement, and the striking differences between quitting your phone in China and the U.S., where WeChat and social media are woven into everyday life in very different ways. 【时间轴 The When】 00:00 为什么要戒手机？ 00:36 日均屏幕时间11-13小时，我们还有救吗？ 07:48 自律石头App 12:17 手机是怎么变成“老虎机”的? 13:28 学习机、MP3/MP4、iPod时代 16:37 智能手机溯源：IBM Simon、诺基亚、文曲星、黑莓 17:45 2007年iPhone推出，成为三合一的革命性产品 19:36 黑莓大众化=打工人"牛马化"的开始 22:51 App Store与Push Notification（推送） 23:56 Infinite Scroll（无限滚动） 24:34 Facebook推出Like（点赞）按钮 25:30 广告经济学和推荐算法的普及 26:03 Tristan Harris和“口袋里的老虎机” 35:03 媒介鄙视链：看书 vs. 刷手机，真的有区别吗？ 37:05 负罪感的复杂性 39:01 三大戒手机流派：物理隔离法、以毒攻毒法、一了百了法 45:00 Luddite（卢德主义）的历史与当代科技拒绝者 46:14 中美科技观念差异 49:01 Kevin Roose的手机锁盒实验 49:32 Catherine Price与付费“戒手机挑战” 57:24 所以戒手机一周，我们是否变聪明了？ 00:00 Why cutting back on phones? 00:36 11-13 hours of screen time a day—is there any hope for us? 07:48 An app that turns a rock into a self-control tool 12:17 How did our phones become “slot machines”? 13:28 The era of electronic learning devices, MP3/MP4 players, and iPods 16:37 Tracing the smartphone’s roots: IBM Simon, Nokia, Wenquxing, and BlackBerry 17:45 The iPhone arrives in 2007: a revolutionary three-in-one device 19:36 BlackBerry goes mainstream—and work follows us everywhere 22:51 The App Store and push notifications 23:56 Infinite scroll 24:34 Facebook introduces the Like button 25:30 The rise of the advertising economy and recommendation algorithms 26:03 Tristan Harris and the “slot machine in your pocket” 35:03 The media pecking order: is reading a book really different from scrolling? 37:05 Our complicated feelings of guilt 39:01 Three ways to quit: physical separation, fighting tech with tech, and going cold turkey 45:00 The history of the Luddites and today’s tech refusers 46:14 How attitudes toward technology differ in China and the U.S. 49:01 Kevin Roose’s phone lockbox experiment 49:32 Catherine Price and the paid “phone detox challenge” 57:24 So, did a week without our phones make us smarter? 【拓展链接 The Links】 Kevin Roose: Do Not Disturb: How I Ditched My Phone and Unbroke My Brain (2019) Catherine Price的Screen/Life Balance挑战 Brick（物理锁机硬件） Opal（游戏化屏幕时间管理APP） BePresent（游戏化屏幕时间管理APP） Tristan Harris: How to Unhijack Your Mind from Your Phone (2016) 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人 杜安蕤：一个想当裁缝的科技/文化撰稿人 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod Business Inquiries Email: [email protected]