The TriMetric Roadmap Podcast With Scott Landis

Scott Landis

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Welcome to The TriMetric Roadmap—the podcast for business owners who want more than just survival. Hosted by Scott Landis, creator of the TriMetric Tracking System™ and author of Balancing Act, this show explores how to scale a business without sacrificing your health, your marriage, or your sanity.Each episode dives into the 21 Critical Factors that drive Business Health, Executive Performance, and Life Quality—through the lens of the TriMetric system and the Four Pillars of Fulfillment™ (Vitality, Relationships, Freedom, and Impact). Whether you're navigating burnout, bottlenecks, or big decisions, you'll find the mindset, strategy, and tools to help you build a business that fuels your life—not one that consumes it. This podcast was formerly known as The Awakened Life and Husband On Fire.

Recent Episodes

OCT 15, 2026
Is Home an Oasis?
Show Notes: Is Home an Oasis? You can build a successful company, become a strong leader, make good money, create more freedom, and still be disconnected from the people and places that matter most. In this episode of The TriMetric Roadmap Podcast, Scott Landis and Jeff Jacob finish the Life Quality series with the final factor: Home & Belonging. The conversation centers around a simple question: Are the people closest to you getting the best of you, or the leftovers? Scott and Jeff talk about how home can quietly become another place where founders carry responsibility. They provide, solve problems, lead, fix things, and take care of everyone else. But providing is not the same as being present. Home & Belonging is about whether the founder has a place where they feel known, safe, connected, accepted, and able to exhale. Jeff shares one early warning sign: what are you looking forward to when the workday ends? Are you excited to go home and connect with the people you love, or are you looking for ways to avoid home through work, the gym, the bar, television, or other distractions? Scott expands the conversation into what he calls relationship intelligence. Every person has needs for certainty, variety, significance, and connection. The important question is not whether those needs will be met, but how and where we choose to meet them. That matters especially in marriage. When important emotional needs are consistently being met somewhere outside the closest relationship, it may be a signal that something needs attention at home. Scott also shares the story of a highly successful executive whose greatest regret was not paying attention to Life Quality sooner. He had success, money, status, and significance through work, but later realized that his family did not experience the same sense of connection he thought he was providing. That story became an important reason Life Quality is included in the TriMetric system. Because what gets measured gets noticed. Jeff also talks about the physical environment of home. A high Home & Belonging score is not only about relationships. It is also about whether your home feels like an oasis or another source of stress. Founders spend much of their lives carrying responsibility. Home should include spaces and relationships where the founder does not always have to perform. The episode closes with practical examples from Scott and Jeff’s own Life Quality assessments. Scott identified the need for more intentional friendship outside of work. Jeff identified more intentional time with his wife and daughters. Both were able to turn those insights into simple rhythms on the calendar. In this episode: Why providing for your family is not the same as being present How to recognize when you are avoiding home Why emotional needs often get met outside the relationships where they belong What “relationship intelligence” means How business success can hide Life Quality problems Why home should feel like an oasis, not another obligation How your physical environment affects belonging and restoration Why founders need relationships where they do not have to perform How Life Quality assessments can uncover practical next steps Take the TriMetric Quiz at TriMetricQuiz.com. For a deeper Life Quality Assessment, visit LQA.BFAPro.com. This episode completes the Life Quality series and closes out the full TriMetric journey through Business Health, Executive Performance, and Life Quality.
28 MIN
OCT 9, 2026
Business as Retirement Plan?
Show Notes: Business as Retirement Plan? A successful business does not automatically mean the founder has personal financial freedom. In this episode of The TriMetric Roadmap Podcast, Scott Landis and Jeff Jacob wrap up the Life Quality series with the seventh factor: Personal Financial Freedom. Personal Financial Freedom is about more than income or business value. It is about whether your household finances provide security, resilience, future options, and a credible path toward retirement or working by choice. Scott and Jeff discuss one of the biggest assumptions founders make: “My business is my retirement plan.” For many business owners, most of their net worth, income, and future expectations are tied to one asset: the company. That can create tremendous wealth, but it also creates risk. Jeff shares examples of profitable businesses whose value changed dramatically because of outside circumstances or because the company remained too dependent on the founder. A business that looks like a strong retirement asset today may not always be worth what the owner expects when it is time to sell. The business can be part of the plan. It should not have to be the entire plan. Scott and Jeff also explain why Personal Financial Freedom matters long before retirement. A founder who is personally financially stressed may make very different business decisions. Personal cash-flow pressure, debt, inadequate reserves, insurance gaps, or lifestyle obligations can cause the founder to operate from fear or short-term necessity rather than making the best long-term decision for the company. On the other hand, greater personal financial freedom creates options. It can allow a founder to invest when needed, walk away from bad opportunities, make better strategic decisions, transition the business on their own terms, or simply continue working because they choose to, not because they have to. They also discuss the importance of building a financial plan around the life you actually want. That includes retirement, but it also includes life along the way: family experiences, weddings, college, travel, date nights, lifestyle goals, generosity, and the things that matter to you now. When a couple has shared financial goals, the conversation can shift from fighting over who is right to working together toward what is right. Ultimately, financial freedom is not just about accumulating the largest number possible. It is about creating enough security and flexibility to live, work, and contribute with greater choice. In this episode: Why business success and personal financial freedom are different The danger of making the business your entire retirement plan Why business value can change unexpectedly How founder dependency affects the value of the company Why personal financial stress can lead to poor business decisions How financial freedom creates better options for the founder Why retirement planning should not mean postponing life How couples can align around shared financial goals The difference between working by necessity and working by choice Why the TriMetric system measures Life Quality alongside Business Health and Executive Performance Take the TriMetric Quiz at TriMetricQuiz.com. The goal is not just a valuable business. It is a valuable business and a personal financial life that gives you the freedom to choose what comes next.
28 MIN
OCT 1, 2026
Are You Building a Fun Life?
Show Notes: Are You Building a Fun Life? Founder freedom is not just about getting more time and money. It is about building a life you can actually enjoy. In this episode of The TriMetric Roadmap Podcast, Scott Landis and Jeff Jacob continue the Life Quality series with the fifth Life Quality factor: Fun & Recreation. This episode asks a simple but important question: Is the business actually supporting the life you set out to build? Scott and Jeff talk about how many founders become so serious, responsible, and consumed by the business that they almost forget how to enjoy life. Fun can start to feel irresponsible. Recreation can feel unproductive. Rest can feel like something that has to be earned after everything else is done. But if the business is producing revenue, opportunity, and responsibility, yet there is no room for joy, play, rest, hobbies, adventure, laughter, or recreation, then something is still out of alignment. Jeff explains that he refuses to not enjoy his life. That shows up in how he hires, who he works with, the boundaries he sets, and how he thinks about work, family, and purpose. He challenges founders not to wait until retirement to enjoy the life they are building. Scott shares that Fun & Recreation is one of the Life Quality areas he has had to be more intentional about. He explains that some people naturally gravitate toward joy, play, and adventure, while others are wired to carry responsibility, solve problems, and keep moving to the next thing. For those founders, receiving joy can take practice. Scott and Jeff also discuss why fun is not the opposite of discipline. Recreation helps re-create capacity. Healthy enjoyment can restore creativity, energy, relationships, and perspective. It can help the founder show up as a fuller, healthier version of themselves. They also connect this factor to founder freedom. If a founder cannot take a weekend off, play with their kids, go on a trip, enjoy a hobby, or laugh without guilt, then the business may still own too much of their life. Freedom is not just having options. Freedom is being able to enjoy them. Scott also speaks to founders nearing retirement or succession. After 20 or 30 years of building a business, identity can become deeply tied to the company. That makes Life Quality especially important. The goal is not just to exit the business. The goal is to know what kind of life the business has been helping you build. The episode closes with a practical challenge: start small. Put something on the calendar that gives life back to you. A date night, a hike, a round of golf, a game with your family, a recurring daddy-daughter date, or a simple moment of celebration can begin moving the needle. Because fun is not a distraction from the life you are building. It is part of the life you are building. In this episode: Why founders can forget how to enjoy life Why Fun & Recreation is part of Life Quality How responsibility can crowd out joy Why rest and recreation are not laziness How enjoyment restores creativity, energy, and perspective Why freedom is not just having options, but enjoying them How retirement and succession planning connect to Life Quality Why founders need to schedule joy before the business consumes every open space Simple ways to start rebuilding fun and recreation into your life Take the TriMetric Quiz at TriMetricQuiz.com. Next episode: Love & Intimacy — why founder freedom has to include the closest relationships in your life, and why success in business should not come at the cost of emotional connection at home.
29 MIN
SEP 29, 2026
Founder Health Is Business Health
Show Notes A business that creates money but destroys your health is still out of alignment. In this episode of The TriMetric Roadmap Podcast, Scott Landis and Jeff Jacob continue the Life Quality series with the fourth Life Quality factor: Health & Energy. This episode looks at one of the most common hidden costs of founder dependency: the founder’s body becomes the shock absorber for the business. When the business lacks systems, margin, leadership, clarity, or shared responsibility, the founder often absorbs that pressure physically and emotionally. Late nights, skipped meals, poor sleep, stress eating, constant adrenaline, screen overload, and always being “on” can all become warning signs. Scott and Jeff explain why health and energy are not separate from business performance. They are directly connected to how a founder leads, decides, delegates, communicates, and shows up for the people depending on them. Jeff shares a helpful picture of burnout using a water heater. When the tank is full and the fire is burning, it can do its job and pour out. But when the tank is empty and the fire keeps burning, the system starts to burn up. In the same way, founders need to pay attention to the difference between being filled and simply escaping pressure. The episode also explores common escape mechanisms. Food, alcohol, TV, scrolling, and other distractions are not always wrong, but they become unhealthy when they replace the things that actually restore energy. Scott and Jeff also connect Health & Energy back to previous Life Quality factors. Trusted people can help notice when something is off. Personal growth helps a founder raise the standard for how they care for their body. And founder freedom requires the physical and emotional capacity to enjoy the life being built. Scott shares part of his own health journey and how an unexpected autoimmune issue gave him more empathy for people struggling with health and energy. Jeff shares about his own burnout experience and how he had to learn what actually filled him instead of just numbing the pressure. The conversation closes with practical starting points: sleep, walking, strength training, protein, water, breathing, screen limits, stress recovery, morning routines, labs, checkups, and using AI to help track personal health data. The goal is not a total life overhaul overnight. The goal is to start simple and raise the standard. Because the business does not just need your time. It needs a healthy version of you. In this episode: Why the founder’s body often absorbs business stress How burnout builds when pressure keeps increasing but energy is not restored The difference between escaping and actually being filled Why fatigue affects decision quality and leadership How health connects to Business Health and Executive Performance Why taking care of yourself is stewardship, not selfishness How trusted people can help you notice warning signs Simple ways to start improving health and energy Why founder freedom must include the energy to enjoy the life you are building Take the TriMetric Quiz at TriMetricQuiz.com. Next episode: Fun & Recreation — why joy, play, rest, and enjoyment are not just extras after the work is done, but part of building a life that is actually worth working for.
33 MIN
SEP 21, 2026
Who’s Helping You Carry the Weight?
Show Notes Founder freedom is not built alone. In this episode of The TriMetric Roadmap Podcast, Scott Landis and Jeff Jacob continue the Life Quality series with the third Life Quality factor: Trusted People. A lot of founders are surrounded by people. They have employees, vendors, clients, family, professional contacts, and people who need things from them. But that does not always mean they have trusted people close enough to help carry the real weight. Scott and Jeff unpack why founders can be surrounded and still feel isolated at the top. As the business grows, the pressure often becomes more concentrated on the founder. Every decision, every number, every hire, every employee issue, and every major outcome can still live in the founder’s head. That is not freedom. That is founder dependency. Jeff explains that one of the ways to test trusted leadership is by watching how people respond when the founder brings a new idea. Do they immediately say, “We can’t do that because…” or do they help think through what would need to be solved? Trusted people do not just agree with the founder. They help bring clarity, challenge blind spots, speak truth, and help move the business forward. Scott connects this to one of BFA’s core beliefs: truth creates freedom. Trusted people are the ones who love you enough to tell you what you need to hear, even when it is uncomfortable. Jeff uses the picture of a backpack full of rocks. If someone is carrying a heavy backpack and complaining about back pain, a trusted person points out the backpack. But the best trusted people do more than identify the weight. They help carry it. That is the difference between advice and shared responsibility. Scott and Jeff also discuss the importance of understanding motivation. The best partnerships often happen when both sides clearly understand why the other person wants the same backpack to get up the hill. Shared interest creates shared momentum. They also touch on practical ways to build trusted people inside and outside the business. Inside the business, founders need leaders who can own outcomes, not just complete tasks. Outside the business, peer advisory groups, trusted advisors, and noncompetitive founder communities can help break isolation. The episode closes with a clear reminder: If everything important still depends on the founder, the business may be growing, but the founder is still the operating system. Trusted people help convert isolation into clarity, pressure into shared responsibility, and founder dependency into real freedom. In this episode: Why founder freedom is not built alone How founders can be surrounded and still isolated Why trusted people tell the truth, not just what you want to hear The difference between advice and shared responsibility Why motivation matters in strategic relationships How trusted people reduce founder dependency Why peer advisory groups can help founders carry the weight How internal leaders can move from task completion to outcome ownership Why the founder must be healthy enough to receive truth Take the TriMetric Quiz at TriMetricQuiz.com. Next episode: Health & Energy — why your body cannot be the thing you sacrifice to keep the business moving, and why founder freedom has to include the physical energy to actually enjoy the life you are building.
29 MIN