427: From RWA to AI Agents: How Pharos Is Closing the Web2-Web3 Gap with Guest Speaker Wish Wu

EPISODE DESCRIPTION  I sat down with Wish Wu from Pharos at Korea Blockchain Week to catch up on everything they've been building since we last spoke eight months ago. Pharos has quietly become the largest blockchain for RWA insurance and distribution in APAC, with over $116 million in real-world assets on-chain , and half of those users are coming straight from Web2. Now they're going further. Wish walks me through how Pharos is building agent-native infrastructure, solving the gas sponsorship problem for micropayments, and launching a desktop app that lets anyone , developer or not , build and run on-chain workflows with AI. With 200,000 to 300,000 agents already running on the chain, the vision is bold: more agents than humans actively transacting on Pharos within the next 12 months.  DISCLAIMER Nothing mentioned in this podcast is investment advice and please do your own research. It would mean a lot if you can leave a review of this podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and share this podcast with a friend.  Be a guest on the podcast or contact us - https://www.web3pod.xyz/  CONNECT  Pharos Website: https://www.pharos.xyz/ Pharos Twitter/X: https://x.com/pharos_network Pharos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pharosnetwork/ Wish LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wishlonger/?isSelfProfile=false Web3 with Sam Kamani: https://www.web3pod.xyz/  KEY POINTS WITH TIMESTAMPS  • [0:00] Introduction at Korea Blockchain Week with Wish Wu from Pharos • [0:50] Pharos has become the largest blockchain for RWA insurance and distribution in APAC with over $116M in on-chain assets • [2:07] ~50% of Pharos users are coming from Web2 , many holding crypto for the first time • [3:14] Pharos upgrades to agent-native support, tackling gas sponsorship friction for new users and agents • [4:42] Why existing gas sponsorship models break down for agent micropayments and multi-chain interactions • [6:33] Introducing programmable gas subscriptions , pay once, let your agent run freely on Pharos • [9:22] Key challenge: closing the UX gap between Web2 apps and Web3 experiences • [10:28] Agents level the playing field , they give Web3 a chance to compete with Web2 UX • [11:54] Pharos is launching a desktop app , a Codex-style tool for both developers and everyday users • [18:06] Partnership priorities: institutions and asset issuers to bring more natively issued on-chain assets • [21:09] 12-month vision: mainnet rollout of agent-native Layer-1, more RWA distribution, and more agents than humans on-chain