Highly Visible & A Little Misunderstood

In episode two of our Money UnMasked series, Jonathan sits down with financial educator and content creator Reni Eniola aka xoReni to talk about money, emotions, and building wealth in a way that actually feels good—not restrictive, shame-filled, or overwhelming. Reni bought her first house at 23 and has since become a trusted voice on financial literacy, career development, and “adulting” online. But beneath the milestones and the numbers, Reni is most interested in the emotional relationship we have with money—especially how childhood experiences quietly shape the way we save, spend, hustle, and dream as adults. Together, Jonathan and Reni explore: How her parents started teaching her about money at age four—and the stories that left an imprint What she thought money would give her when she bought her first house, and what it actually did Why so many of us think we have a “money problem” when what we really have is an emotional or identity story The tension between taking bold risks and having a financial safety net What people are really pursuing when they say they want “financial freedom” How to start relating to money from self-worth and self-compassion instead of fear and self-judgment If you’ve ever felt behind with money, ashamed of what you “should know by now,” or overwhelmed by all the rules and advice, this episode offers a gentler, more honest way to think about wealth, security, and the kind of life you want to build. At the end, Jonathan and Reni invite you to reflect on your own story:Money representsWhen I think about money, I feel Your answer might show you what you’re actually pursuing when you pursue money. Timestamps (Approx.) 0:00 – Intro & why this conversation matters in Money Unmasked 3:00 – Who Reni is and how she became “Reni the Resource” 7:00 – Learning about money at four years old: early lessons & family influence 13:00 – Buying a house at 23: what she hoped money would give her 20:00 – Emotions, identity, and why “just budget better” isn’t enough 28:00 – Financial risk vs. safety nets in entrepreneurship 36:00 – What people are really chasing when they chase financial freedom 44:00 – Practical ways to start healing your relationship with money 52:00 – Jonathan’s reflection & audience invitation Connect with Reni: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@xoReni  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/xoreni/  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@xoxoreni  Website: renitheresource.com Check out the Don’t Go Broke Collective Accountability Group Don’t Go Broke Trying Podcast:  Listen on Youtube or Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods  Resources Mentioned in the Show (If you purchase any of the books below I get a small commission): Rest is Resistance: A Manifesto by Tricia Hersey The Trauma of Money by Chantel Chapman The Debt Trap: The Hidden Brain Podcast  Everything but Money by Jessica Morehouse Steph & Den Free Budget Template  Money for Couples with Ramit Sethi I Will Teach You to Be Rich by Ramit Sethi 🎧Listen to Previous Episode: What Are We Really Pursuing When We Pursue Money Stay Connected: 📺Join our Community on Youtube 📬Get updates, behind-the-scenes content, and first access to the upcoming newsletter  👉🏾Buy me Ko-fi ☕️ 🔗All links → https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod 📲Follow us on Instagram  🕰️ Follow us on TikTok    Credits: Produced & Edited: Jonathan Dumas Produced & Additional Editing: Reggie Hall Socials & Community: Myron Bobyrk-Ozaki Email: [email protected]

Welcome to Highly Visible, A Little Misunderstood—where we explore life's most complex conversations with curiosity, vulnerability, and zero pressure to perform. In this season premiere, host Jonathan Dumas invites you into an intimate exploration of money that goes far beyond budgeting and financial literacy. What are we really pursuing when we pursue money? Is it freedom, safety, status, or something deeper? This season—Money Unmasked—explores the tension between needing money and not wanting money to define who we are. Through personal stories, reflections on childhood lessons, and four intentional lenses (Identity, Relationships, Values, and Society), Jonathan examines how money shapes our fears, our relationships, and our sense of worth. In this episode, you'll hear: Jonathan's reframing of poverty and enoughness through his brother Reggie's wisdom: "We aren't broke—we just don't have money right now." The unintended lessons about money he inherited from his mother's generosity Why money is spiritual, emotional, and deeply connected to our unconscious fears The moral tension of success: "If we make it, how do we refuse to forget the systems that kept others out?" An invitation to share your own relationship with money This is not a season of solutions. It's a season of questions—the kind you ask at your kitchen table late at night with people you trust. If you've ever felt conflicted about wanting more while fearing what that means about you, this season is for you. Complete the sentence in the comments: "Money represents ___" or "When I think about money, I feel ___" Your responses may appear anonymously in the season finale as we reflect on what shifted together. Timestamps0:00 — Introduction, Team Updates & Welcome to Myron Bobrick Ozaki1:30 — What This Season Is (And Isn't)1:43 — The Guiding Question: What Are We Really Pursuing?2:46 — Reggie's Wisdom: "We Aren't Broke, We Just Don't Have Money Right Now"3:40 — Inherited Lessons: What His Mom Taught About Money5:37 — Money Is Emotional, Not Neutral11:13 — Four Lenses: Identity, Relationships, Values, Society11:42 — The Big Questions Holding the Season13:05 — Audience Prompt: "Money Represents " or "When I Think of Money, I Feel "15:06 — Closing Question & Invitation 📬 Stay Connected:📺 Join us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@HighlyVisiblePod📬Get updates, behind-the-scenes content, and first access to the upcoming newsletter: https://heyjonathandumas.com/hvlmpod👉🏾 Buy me Ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/highlyvisiblepod🔗 All links → https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod📲 Instagram & TikTok: @highlyvisiblepod Production:Produced & Edited: Jonathan DumasProduced & Additional Editing: Reggie HallSocials & Community: Myron Bobyrk-OzakiEmail: [email protected] 

What if joy isn’t a destination but something already living inside you?In this heartfelt and deeply grounding conversation, Jonathan sits down with tech leader, DEIB advocate, and proud mom Tamara Wall to explore joy through the lens of motherhood, legacy, and healing.   This is one of the conversations that never made it out during the Joy season—so bringing it to you now feels especially meaningful.   Tamara opens up about: • Motherhood as both healing ground and harvest • Breaking cycles and creating a different future for her children • Embracing Black joy as resistance • Finding joy even when grief or isolation try to take the lead • Teaching her kids that joy isn’t earned—it’s deserved   Jonathan reflects on his own upbringing, the legacy of joy passed down through his family, and the power of small moments that stay with us. There’s even a special moment featuring a voicemail from Jonathan’s mom that captures the heart of the entire episode: joy, love, and the quiet reminders that carry us forward.   If you’ve ever struggled to hold joy in a heavy season…If you’re a parent trying to raise kids with intention…If you’re healing your inner child…Or if you’ve simply forgotten that joy belongs to you—this conversation will meet you right where you are.   Joy is your birthright. Let this episode remind you of that.   💬 Join the Conversation!Finish the sentence: “Joy is…”Drop a comment or send a voice note → https://form.smartsuite.com/sszxz4mn/sxwLOAg7ur   🤝🏾 Connect with Tamara Wall • LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamarawall/ • Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/theerealtam    📚 Resources & LinksGet Erased: What American Patriarchy Has Hidden from Us by Anna Malaika Tubbs → https://bookshop.org/a/79820/9781250876690 Rest is Resistance by Tricia Hersey → https://bookshop.org/a/79820/9780316365215   📬 Stay Connected: Join us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@HighlyVisiblePod  Get updates, behind-the-scenes content, and first access to the upcoming newsletter: https://highlyvisiblepod.ck.page/684e1e911f Buy me Ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/highlyvisiblepod Instagram: @HighlyVisiblePod All links → https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod   🎛️ Production: Produced & Edited by: Jonathan Dumas (@highlyvisiblepod) Co-produced & Additional Editing by: Reggie Hall Email: [email protected]

📺 HELP US HIT OUR SEPTEMBER SUB GOAL ON YOUTUBE → https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod  What is joy really—and how do we keep returning to it, even when life feels heavy? In this season finale of Highly Visible & A Little Misunderstood, Jonathan Dumas reflects on a whole season of On Joy—pulling together the most honest takeaways, tender moments, and practical tools from every guest. No fluff. No toxic positivity. Just real-life ways to practice joy in the middle of struggle, work, community, and everyday life. We revisit conversations with Brandon Howard on joy in the body, Amani Roberts on creativity as muscle, Abe Medoff on somatics, Mimi Gonzalez on grief and creativity, Jennice Chewlin on joy as strategy at work, Ashmi Patel on joy guilt, Tiffany LeNoir on belonging, Louis Byrd on solution-oriented peace, and Shauntelle Carnegie on “joy-stacking” when life feels heavy. Jonathan also shares his own confession—how he accidentally turned joy into a KPI—and what it took to re-learn joy as a practice, not a performance. ✨ What you’ll take away: The body-first question that helps joy stop hiding Why joy ≠ happiness (and how to tell the difference) Simple micro-practices to return to joy at home, at work, and in community A reframe: joy and struggle can coexist without guilt If you’re new here—start with these fan favorites: Tiffany: Quitting Wasn’t the Risk–Staying Was → https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/real-talk-with-dumas-podcast/id1501526441?i=1000718924815  Abe: The Hidden Practice That Makes Joy Sustainable → https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/real-talk-with-dumas-podcast/id1501526441?i=1000721049878  We revisit conversations with: Brandon Howard → Ep 91 | What If Joy Has Nothing to Do With the Scale? Ashmi Patel → Ep 92 | Joy Without Guilt: Unlearning Perfectionism & Generational Pressure Amani Roberts → Ep 93 | Fighting Fear, Doubt & Worry—And Creating Anyway Mimi Gonzalez, @griefsense → Ep 94 | Grief Isn’t the End—It’s the Remix Louis Byrd → Ep 97 | Finding Joy in the Mess and Fixing Problems That Shouldn’t Exist Shauntelle Carnegie → Ep 98 | “What If You’re Not Stuck—Just Scared?” Jennice Chewlin → Ep 99 | Joy at Work Isn’t a Perk—It’s a Strategy 💬 Join the ConversationWhat’s one small way joy has found you this season? Send a voice note → https://form.smartsuite.com/sszxz4mn/sxwLOAg7ur 🚨 Help us hit our YouTube sub goal (125 by end of September)! Tap the Linktree and subscribe on YouTube → https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod 📬 Click to Join our community + get free stickers → https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod ☕️ Click to Support the show on Ko-fi → https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod Follow us for more: 📸 Instagram & TikTok: @HighlyVisiblePod 🎙️ All platforms: https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod   🎛️ Production Credits Produced & Edited by: Jonathan Dumas Co-Produced & Additional Editing: Reggie Hall Contact: [email protected] 

📺 HELP US HIT OUR SUB GOAL BY SUBSCRIBING TO OUR YOUTUBE PAGE!  Joy isn’t a perk you earn at the end of your to-do list—it’s a practice you build in the middle of real life.  In this episode of Highly Visible & A Little Misunderstood, Jonathan sits down with Jennice Chewlin—Latina mom, workplace wellbeing strategist, and founder of Chewlin Group—to unpack why joy at work is not “toxic positivity,” but a strategy for connection, trust, and sustainable impact. We get into: how to stop confusing joy with happiness, why “design for joy, not just efficiency” changes meetings and morale, and what happens when leaders start small (think: human openers, meaningful celebrations, and collaborative “show & tell” lunches). Jennice shares the story of her dad biking across the border to med school—a masterclass in how struggle and joy can coexist—and we talk “mudita” (the joy we feel for someone else’s win), sport-as-reset (soccer/basketball), and how joy fuels collective healing and liberation without ignoring pain. If you’re a people leader, culture-builder, or just a burnt-out human trying to feel human again at work, this one’s for you. 💬 Join the Conversation📝 Finish this: “Joy at work looks like ______.” Keep it concrete (who, where, when). Bonus points if you share the song you’ll play to kick it off. Drop a voice note if that’s easier → https://form.smartsuite.com/sszxz4mn/sxwLOAg7ur 🤝🏾 Connect with Jennice Chewlin LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennicechewlin  Website → https://www.chewlingroup.com/  Email → [email protected]  📚 Resources & Links Get Your Copy of The Lightmaker’s Manifesto   Rest is Resistance by Tricia Hersey   📺 Watch & Subscribe on Youtube → Hit subscribe for full video episodes, clips, and live chats. 📬 Click to Join our community + get free stickers ☕️ Click to Support the show on Ko-fi Follow us for more: 📸 Instagram & TikTok: @HighlyVisiblePod 🎙️ All platforms: https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod 🎛️ Production Credits Produced & Edited by: Jonathan Dumas Co-Produced & Additional Editing: Reggie Hall Contact: [email protected]