The Evolving Wellness Podcast with Sarah Kleiner Wellness

On the Evolving Wellness Podcast, host Sarah Kleiner interviews returning guest Chris, a lab reader and health coach, about why standard lab reference ranges can be misleading because they’re based on an average, chronically ill population, leading doctors to label many people “normal” until overt disease appears (e.g., insulin ranges where healthy averages are ~2–6). They criticize algorithmic, diagnosis-driven medicine and argue AI lab interpretation repeats these limitations, lacking nuance and the human “art” of healing. Chris shares his background of childhood illness, leaving a pre-med path after shadowing physicians constrained by the system, and building a holistic practice emphasizing blood chemistry context, lifestyle/circadian factors, behavior change, and nervous system/trauma-pattern work. They discuss setting realistic expectations, avoiding excessive testing and supplement spending, and Chris describes forming a multi-practitioner team and where to find him online. — Book with Chris - https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/offers/DUNLjVAk/checkout Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/themitopapi/https://shieldofhealth.com SubStack: https://substack.com/@mitopapiX: https://x.com/Mitopapi_________Sponsored By:→ VivaRays | This episode is sponsored by VivaRays - VivaRays Blue - code YOGI https://vivarays.com/→ Troscriptions | For an exclusive offer, go to https://www.troscriptions.com/SARAHK for 10% off your first non subscription order.→ Toups & Co Organics | Ready to give Toups a try? Get 25% off your first order by going to https://toupsandco.com/EVOLVING, and use code EVOLVING for 25% off your first order._________Timestamp:00:00 Coming up00:54 Podcast Intro and Disclaimers03:06 Meet Chris04:15 AI Lab Reads and Reference Ranges07:22 Algorithmic Medicine vs Healing Art10:27 Sponsor Breaks and Integrative Care13:55 Chris’s Origin Story and Whole-Person Framework31:02 Client Ownership Mindset32:24 Makeup Sponsor Break33:49 Trust Recession Reality36:23 Integration Over Protocols40:07 Building The Avengers Team44:54 Tests Versus Basics49:25 Lab Reading Deep Dive——— This video is not medical advice & as a supporter to you and your health journey - I encourage you to monitor your labs and work with a professional!________________________________________Get all my free guides and product recommendations to get started on your journey!https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/all-free-resourcesCheck out all my courses to understand how to improve your mitochondrial health & experience long lasting health! (Use code PODCAST to save 10%) -  https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/coursesMy free product guide with all product recommendations and discount codes:https://www.canva.com/design/DAF7mlgZpJI/xVyE4tiQFEWJmh_Xwx8Kbw/view?utm_content=DAF7mlgZpJIFree Webinar on Light & Health (includes free light bulb guide) - https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/mycircadianapp-free-webinarGet Early Access to Podcast Episodes & my Seasonal Food Course + UVB+Red Light Therapy course for free -  https://open.substack.com/pub/sarahkleinerwellness/p/uvbred-light-protocol?r=5eztl9&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true

Sarah hosts Jamie Glowacki on the Evolving Wellness Podcast to discuss how Jamie’s background as a social worker led to her potty-training work, including the origin and growth of her “Oh Crap Potty Training” book and classes. They explore how parenting pressures and overwhelming information have intensified for modern moms, shifting Jamie’s focus toward supporting mothers’ well-being. The conversation turns to aging, perimenopause, and menopause, with Jamie describing a symptom-free transition and arguing that perimenopause can be a “report card” on health, emphasizing strength training, adequate dietary fat, and reducing endocrine disruptors. They also critique trendy, scripted health messaging—especially around HRT and telehealth—while acknowledging HRT can help some women. Additional topics include circadian eating, avoiding constant snacking, balancing seasonal/local foods, and simplifying family life to reduce stress.— Links Mentioned in the video:https://www.instagram.com/jamie.glowacki/?hl=en https://linktr.ee/jamieglowacki _________Sponsored By:→ VivaRays | This episode is sponsored by VivaRays - VivaRays Blue - code YOGI https://vivarays.com/→ Toups & Co Organics | Ready to give Toups a try? Get 25% off your first order by going to https://toupsandco.com/EVOLVING, and use code EVOLVING for 25% off your first order._________Timestamp:00:00 Menopause Then vs Now00:56 Podcast Intro and Disclaimer03:02 Meet Jamie Glowacki03:54 Potty Training Origin Story07:14 From Parenting to Mom Burnout08:29 A Glorious Menopause11:04 Perimenopause Health Report Card14:08 Strength Training and Healthy Fats15:40 Blue Blockers Sponsor Break18:29 HRT Hype and Telehealth Risks23:23 Menopause Mindset and Boundaries27:56 Caring for Parents and Staying Strong30:26 Lifestyle Triggers and Hormone Disruptors34:24 Hangover Recovery Hacks34:59 Aging Without Aches36:08 Menopause Mood Swings37:32 Holistic Health Over Numbers38:56 Letting Go as a Mom41:39 Kids Meals and Family Dinner43:30 Circadian Eating Windows47:34 Carnivore Lessons and Gut Relief55:24 Oxalates Nuts and Smoothies59:19 Seasonal Eating and Fruit Limits01:03:25 Parenting Dopamine and Screens01:05:25 Wrap Up and Where to Find Jamie——— This video is not medical advice & as a supporter to you and your health journey - I encourage you to monitor your labs and work with a professional!________________________________________Get all my free guides and product recommendations to get started on your journey!https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/all-free-resourcesCheck out all my courses to understand how to improve your mitochondrial health & experience long lasting health! (Use code PODCAST to save 10%) -  https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/coursesMy free product guide with all product recommendations and discount codes:https://www.canva.com/design/DAF7mlgZpJI/xVyE4tiQFEWJmh_Xwx8Kbw/view?utm_content=DAF7mlgZpJIFree Webinar on Light & Health (includes free light bulb guide) - https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/mycircadianapp-free-webinarGet Early Access to Podcast Episodes & my Seasonal Food Course + UVB+Red Light Therapy course for free -  https://open.substack.com/pub/sarahkleinerwellness/p/uvbred-light-protocol?r=5eztl9&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true

In part two of a conversation on the Evolving Wellness Podcast, the host and Dr. Sarah Pugh answer audience questions and discuss high-end versus low-cost PEMF beds, why signal quality matters, and concerns about plugging devices into the wall, grounding sheets, and EMF anxiety. They compare far-infrared BioMAT effects on cellular water and exclusion zone water with red light panels, and talk about adapting to EMF exposures during travel, airports, and saunas while using blue blockers and protective clothing. They explore differences in vitamin D and melanin responses at various UVIs, peptides such as melanotan (including dosing and reconstitution risks), and the importance of foundations and testing—especially cortisol curves and metabolic markers—in perimenopause support. The episode also covers cautious use of herbs and supplements, behavior strategies for cravings, cannabis-related hunger, influencer discernment, and a brief discussion of cholesterol as a useful molecule best interpreted in context.— Links Mentioned in the video:Dr. Sara Pugh’s Substack - https://substack.com/@busysuperhuman Sarah Kleiner's Substack - ⁠https://substack.com/@sarahkleinerwellness⁠Free Blueprint info session sign up - ⁠https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/blueprint-live-info-session⁠Blueprint LIVE (Starts first week of MAY) - ⁠https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/offers/83DnpN2o?coupon_code=EARLYMAY⁠Blueprint On Demand - ⁠https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/offers/2oECuhhC/checkout⁠ All Courses & Protocols (Sarah Kleiner) - ⁠https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/store⁠ Sarah Kleiner’s free product guide (all my favorite things) - ⁠https://canva.link/vqycebyg1ulkohf⁠ Dr. Sara’s Retreat Waitlist - https://get.busysuperhuman.com/optin1769620703739 All Courses (Dr. Sara Pugh) - https://busysuperhuman.com/courses-coaching/ _________Sponsored By:→ VivaRays | This episode is sponsored by VivaRays - VivaRays Blue - code YOGI https://vivarays.com/→ Troscriptions | For an exclusive offer, go to https://www.troscriptions.com/SARAHK for 10% off your first non subscription order.→ Toups & Co Organics | Ready to give Toups a try? Get 25% off your first order by going to https://toupsandco.com/EVOLVING, and use code EVOLVING for 25% off your first order._________Timestamp:00:00 Croissant Banter00:40 Podcast Intro Notices02:58 PEMF Beds And Signal Quality06:00 BioMAT Far Infrared Water07:22 Travel EMF And Airport Mindset12:44 Vitamin D Melanin And Peptides20:14 Supplements Herbs And Perimenopause32:25 Intake Forms and Data33:49 Lifestyle and Social Health34:13 Coaching and Simple Habits35:49 Who to Help and Goals39:08 Obesity Groups and Movement43:00 Cravings Addiction and Weed53:43 Trolls Cholesterol and Wrap——— This video is not medical advice & as a supporter to you and your health journey - I encourage you to monitor your labs and work with a professional!________________________________________Get all my free guides and product recommendations to get started on your journey!https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/all-free-resourcesCheck out all my courses to understand how to improve your mitochondrial health & experience long lasting health! (Use code PODCAST to save 10%) -  https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/coursesMy free product guide with all product recommendations and discount codes:https://www.canva.com/design/DAF7mlgZpJI/xVyE4tiQFEWJmh_Xwx8Kbw/view?utm_content=DAF7mlgZpJIFree Webinar on Light & Health (includes free light bulb guide) - https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/mycircadianapp-free-webinarGet Early Access to Podcast Episodes & my Seasonal Food Course + UVB+Red Light Therapy course for free -  https://open.substack.com/pub/sarahkleinerwellness/p/uvbred-light-protocol?r=5eztl9&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true

Host Sarah welcomes Dr. Sarah Pugh for a wide-ranging Part 1 conversation touching on listener questions and current wellness themes. They discuss viral AI-generated social media accounts pushing cheap, vague weight-loss or supplement offers via Amazon links, and why people should be cautious. The conversation moves into addiction patterns (alcohol, food, nicotine, phone use), comfort eating, and weight-loss plateaus tied to low leptin, chronic dieting, and overexercising, emphasizing consistency, rhythm, light exposure, earlier dinners, and earlier bedtimes. They reference tools and labs including 4-point cortisol testing, CBCs, insulin and leptin ranges, sauna use and binder cautions, and how illness can distort labs. They also cover individual differences in diet (fiber, estrogen clearance), hair changes, traditional practices, deuterium and hydrogen inhalation, and how stress, light, and environment can shift the microbiomeLinks Mentioned in the video:Dr. Sara Pugh’s Substack - https://substack.com/@busysuperhuman Sarah Kleiner's Substack - https://substack.com/@sarahkleinerwellnessFree Blueprint info session sign up - https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/blueprint-live-info-sessionBlueprint LIVE (Starts first week of MAY) - https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/offers/83DnpN2o?coupon_code=EARLYMAYBlueprint On Demand - https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/offers/2oECuhhC/checkout All Courses & Protocols (Sarah Kleiner) - https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/store Sarah Kleiner’s free product guide (all my favorite things) - https://canva.link/vqycebyg1ulkohf Dr. Sara’s Retreat Waitlist - https://get.busysuperhuman.com/optin1769620703739 All Courses (Dr. Sara Pugh) - https://busysuperhuman.com/courses-coaching/ _________Sponsored By:→ Bon Charge | Go to https://boncharge.com/products/demi-red-light-device?rfsn=8108115.26608d & use code SARAHKLEINER for 15% off storewide.→ Cowboy Colostrum | Get 25% Off Cowboy Colostrum with code SARAHK at https://cowboycolostrum.com/SARAHK→ VivaRays | This episode is sponsored by VivaRays - VivaRays Blue - code YOGI https://vivarays.com/_________Timestamp:00:00 AI Influencers and Amazon Links00:53 Podcast Intro and Disclaimers03:53 Addictions and Comfort Eating09:14 Leptin Reset and Metabolic Rhythm16:26 Labs Stress and Modern Mitigation37:53 Super Collagen Bone Broth39:17 Organ Meats and Culture42:00 Spotting AI Wellness Scams54:31 Detox Binders and Sauna Safety58:23 Deuterium Sleep and Microbiome——— This video is not medical advice & as a supporter to you and your health journey - I encourage you to monitor your labs and work with a professional!________________________________________Get all my free guides and product recommendations to get started on your journey!https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/all-free-resourcesCheck out all my courses to understand how to improve your mitochondrial health & experience long lasting health! (Use code PODCAST to save 10%) -  https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/coursesMy free product guide with all product recommendations and discount codes:https://www.canva.com/design/DAF7mlgZpJI/xVyE4tiQFEWJmh_Xwx8Kbw/view?utm_content=DAF7mlgZpJIFree Webinar on Light & Health (includes free light bulb guide) - https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/mycircadianapp-free-webinarGet Early Access to Podcast Episodes & my Seasonal Food Course + UVB+Red Light Therapy course for free -  https://open.substack.com/pub/sarahkleinerwellness/p/uvbred-light-protocol?r=5eztl9&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true

Host Sarah interviews Dr. Tyler Panner, a PhD in cell biology and pharmacology, about why supplements can be life-changing for some people and harmful for others due to bioindividuality, genetics, and “terrain.” They discuss how stacking polyphenol supplements (e.g., curcumin, quercetin, resveratrol) can inhibit neurotransmitter breakdown and make adrenaline linger, worsening restlessness, anxiety, sleep, and irritability, and how concentrated products can also chelate iron and copper. They cover sulfur/sulfite sensitivity, histamine and glutamate “gas pedals,” confusing supplement blends, and misattributing adverse reactions to “detox.” The conversation critiques absolutist online supplement advice, fear-based content (including mold and oxalates), and highlights the need for supplement pharmacology, testing, and careful dosing, noting some people improve by removing the wrong supplements rather than adding more.Connect with Tyler Panzner:https://www.instagram.com/drtylerpanzner _________Sponsored By:→ VivaRays | This episode is sponsored by VivaRays - VivaRays Blue - code YOGI https://vivarays.com/→ Troscriptions | For an exclusive offer, go to https://www.troscriptions.com/SARAHK for 10% off your first non subscription order._________Timestamp:00:00 Red Light Office Prep00:49 Podcast Intro and Disclaimers03:28 Time Change Morning Strategy05:14 Pre Sunrise Routine Tools08:06 Lux Timer and Light Breaks10:04 Lux Thresholds Explained14:42 Light Boxes Pros and Cons17:56 Spring Skin Sun Prep19:43 Nutrition and Burn Risk23:01 Sequential Sunlight and UVA26:48 Metabolism Skin Benefits28:01 New Topic Methylene Blue28:26 Methylene Blue Use Cases29:12 Cellulite as Energy Loss30:59 Spring UVB Vitamin D Basics32:44 Microdosing Sun Exposure34:23 UV Index and Skin Type36:00 Blue Blockers Reality Check37:27 Cold Plunge for Melanin40:16 Shade Infrared Office Fixes43:20 Evening Routine and Eating45:35 Lux Rules and Glasses49:56 Sleep Debt and Body Clocks51:28 Programs and Final Wrap——— This video is not medical advice & as a supporter to you and your health journey - I encourage you to monitor your labs and work with a professional!________________________________________Get all my free guides and product recommendations to get started on your journey!https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/all-free-resourcesCheck out all my courses to understand how to improve your mitochondrial health & experience long lasting health! (Use code PODCAST to save 10%) -  https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/coursesMy free product guide with all product recommendations and discount codes:https://www.canva.com/design/DAF7mlgZpJI/xVyE4tiQFEWJmh_Xwx8Kbw/view?utm_content=DAF7mlgZpJIFree Webinar on Light & Health (includes free light bulb guide) - https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/mycircadianapp-free-webinarGet Early Access to Podcast Episodes & my Seasonal Food Course + UVB+Red Light Therapy course for free -  https://open.substack.com/pub/sarahkleinerwellness/p/uvbred-light-protocol?r=5eztl9&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true