The Influence Gap with Bernadette McClelland

Bernadette McClelland

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Sales and leadership coach and speaker Bernadette McClelland connects with leaders and top performers who are helping to close the gap between message and impact.

Recent Episodes

OCT 15, 2026
23: Jen Mueller: I Talk to Losers - From The Locker Room to The Sales Floor
After every game, win or lose, Jen Mueller walks into the locker room and does four to six interviews, most of them over in two minutes and 15 seconds. So she’s learned to make one question count. Jen is an Emmy award-winning producer and sports broadcaster with 25 years in the business. She’s been the Seattle Seahawks’ radio sideline reporter since 2009, which has earned her two Super Bowl rings, and spent 19 years on the Seattle Mariners television broadcast team. She’s also the founder of Talk Sporty to Me. Jen and Bernadette McClelland get into why you can be authentic and prepared at the same time, and how to ask a question with only one answer. They also discuss Jen’s keynote, I Talk to Losers, and why tough conversations get muddy in business when nobody agrees on what the win looks like. WHAT WE COVER: Why preparation is far bigger than the game plan The question with only one answer, and how it puts a reluctant buyer at ease Being direct and kind at the same time What high-performing teams do after a win Why athletes measure success by process, not the scoreboard ABOUT JEN MUELLER:Jen Mueller is an Emmy award-winning sports broadcaster, the Seattle Seahawks’ radio sideline reporter, and founder of Talk Sporty to Me. Her fourth book, Cook Like a Rookie, is out early next year. Learn more: talksportytome.com WANT TO GO DEEPER ON DECISIONS THAT DRIVE REVENUE?Stop guessing and access your personalised Missing Revenue Radar 👉 salesleaderofinfluence.com
35 MIN
OCT 7, 2026
22: Henning Schwinum: The Rise of Fractional Sales Leadership
Most CEOs looking for a sales leader ask for a rock star from their industry. Henning Schwinum says that brief is close to meaningless, because everyone's a rock star on their LinkedIn profile. Henning has spent more than 25 years leading sales in Fortune 500 companies and startups. In 2019 he co-founded Vendux, which matches CEOs with fractional sales leaders, and he's the author of the new book Right-Sized, Right-Skilled. Henning and Bernadette McClelland get into the player-coach trap that keeps small sales teams stuck, why fractional engagements go sideways (it's almost never the executive's skills), and the "don't call my baby ugly" syndrome: founders who pay for help and then won't let anything change. WHAT WE COVER: Interim vs. fractional, and what each one means Why three reps might need 10 hours of leadership a week, not a full-time player-coach The matching criteria that matter more than industry or President's Club The 15-minute weekly check-in that keeps an engagement on track Why your network decides whether a fractional career works ABOUT HENNING SCHWINUM:Henning Schwinum is co-founder of Vendux and author of Right-Sized, Right-Skilled. He spent more than 25 years leading sales in Fortune 500 companies and startups.Learn more: vendux.org, or find Henning on LinkedIn. WANT TO GO DEEPER ON DECISIONS THAT DRIVE REVENUE?Stop guessing and access your personalised Missing Revenue Radar 👉 salesleaderofinfluence.com or visit 👉 bernadettemcclelland.com
42 MIN
SEP 16, 2026
19: Holly Shipley: Beyond The Hype - From Google Search To AI
She carried her Google badge through airport security back when TSA had no idea what Google was. Twenty years later, she was telling Texas Instruments' senior leadership that ChatGPT was an emergency worth paying attention to. Holly Shipley spent 20 years at Google and Texas Instruments before founding her own AI strategy practice. That mix of digital and hardware experience meant that when generative AI broke in 2022, she already understood the pieces — she became TI's internal AI advisor and sat at the table with the labs building it in real time. Holly and Bernadette McClelland get into the difference between a strategic AI decision and pure FOMO, the three things every leader needs to prep before rolling out an AI tool, and a wild real story about 700 AI testing agents at OpenAI who found a shared file system, started messaging each other, and coordinated to avoid getting caught cheating on their own tests. WHAT WE COVER: Strategic AI decisions vs. pure FOMO The three-step prep every leader needs before rolling out an AI tool The "washing machine principle" for where AI actually belongs The 700-agent OpenAI story and what it means for your business's security Why a personal AI account is a bigger risk than most leaders realize ABOUT HOLLY SHIPLEY: Holly Shipley spent 20 years at Google and Texas Instruments before founding her own AI strategy practice, advising executives — largely at women-owned and small-to-medium businesses — on the real risks and opportunities of generative AI. Learn more: hollyshipleyconsulting.com WANT TO GO DEEPER ON DECISIONS THAT DRIVE REVENUE? Stop guessing and access your personalised Missing Revenue Radar 👉 revenueleaderofinfluence.com
51 MIN